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Country: UK
Signup Date: 6/23/2006

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Monday, October 12, 2009 

Category: Parties and Nightlife
Name and Shame #1

Name: Philip Shiraz
Works out of: Stockholm, Sweden




Do not trust this man
- Philip Shiraz

http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Shiraz/733947736

If you do decide to work with him (and I suggest that you don't) then make sure you get 100% cash up front.

I recently had the displeasure of working with this guy. He booked me for a party in Stockholm. I showed up, played a good gig , the party was well attended, not packed solid, but plenty of people and a pretty successful event.

He told me he'd meet me in the morning at the hotel to pay me the 1500 euros that we agreed as a fee. Hours before the party started he told me: "there will be no problem at all with the cash, how we run our parties is that we always make sure that we put the artist's money in the bank even before the party starts so even if the party fails, we can still pay the artists."

Here's an excerpt from his email to me the day before the party:

At arrival everything is set. There won’t be a problem with payment, everything is under control. Just enjoy the travel and enjoy Sweden.....


Regards Philip


Needless to say, he didn't show up at the hotel in the morning, I called him about 10 times and didn't answer his mobile phone, leaving me to pay the hotel bills and having to make my own way to the airport via taxi and train.


I have tried several times to contact him since with SMS, phone calls and emails - and so far have been met with a deafening silence.


I also find out that the other 3 numbers that he gave me as contacts (in the email one day before the party ) all turn out to be false numbers, suggesting that the whole thing was a set-up from the start.


The last emails I sent him I told him to please do the right thing and contact me, if he had to pay installments, no problem, we could work something out, but still, total silence.


After trying repeatedly, the last email I sent him I gave him a deadline of 4 days to contact me otherwise I will have to name and shame him publically, not because I would take any pleasure in it (it's a drag actually) but because I have a duty to inform other artists so they don't get robbed in a similar way.


Unfortunately still not a word, hence this post.


Please make sure word gets around about this guy. He doesn't deserve to get away with this. Artists and party people alike should know what this guy is about.


Billy Cosmosis

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P.S

Please note, this is not meant as a whinge, but as a heads up and warning for others to not get caught and also as a way to create some kind of consequence for this guy's dishonesty.


P.P.S

Having an effective policy in place to make sure I get paid is my responsibity. I have a policy of money up front with people that I have never worked with before. Unfortunately, in this case I made a (very) rare exception and it was completely taken advantage of.


Lastly, Harel Prussky was playing at this gig and I'd like to know whether he also got stiffed. I sent Harel an email but no reply as yet... We'll see soon enough. (update: Harel got ripped off also)




Finally, I am just astonished by the stupidity of some people that in today's Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, Email, mSN, Skype, Internet forum connected world, that somehow they think they can get away with this type of behaviour, without everyone knowing about it. 

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Conclusion

23rd October 2009


So, just to conclude this Dodgy Promoter Alert

After many emails to him via Facebook, he finally emailed me back at last!

So what do you think he said?  



He told me that he was NOT going to pay me. (In his words, "It's not going to happen.")

So just to be clear on this, it's not a late payment.  It's theft.


Two days of my time and my expertees were extracted from me under false pretences.

So, the final score:


Philip Shiraz didn't pay:

1. Cosmosis
2. California Sunshine (The other main Live act)
3. The 2 DJ's on the Tecno floor
4. 1 other DJ on the Trance floor
5. The decor team which set the party decorations up.

It's important to note that the party went reasonably well. It was pretty well attended, many people enjoyed themselves and had a good night. Financially, I would guess around the break even point, maybe slight loss or slight gain.


I've had 2 dj's contact me about a previous event he made where they did not get paid at all and another 2 DJ's for an additional event of his that didn't get paid either.

So my conclusion is that this Philip Shiraz guy is simply a liar and a con man, plain and simple.


Please feel free to spread this information so other people do not get ripped off by him.

Cheers,
Bill


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Philip Shiraz website: http://www.philipshiraz.com/


Philip Shiraz Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/people/Philip-Shiraz/733947736

Wiggins and Maroo

 
You have my empathy. This is totally lowbrow and classless. My wishes and thoughts that you end up with your compensation.
 
Posted by Wiggins and Maroo on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 6:33 AM
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special brew

 
Sockholm eh!? Looks like we might have to send Mikey Dread in!!

 
Posted by special brew on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:08 PM
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PSYLICIOUS

 
Thanks for the heads up on this Bill. Always good to know WHO to avoid working with. It is people like this who do give the industry a very bad name and as for after taste, very sour!

 
Posted by PSYLICIOUS on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:08 PM
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sue

 
oops it was me logged in as psylife music... :) greetings from budapest

 
Posted by sue on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:08 PM
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Psylife Music

 
I feel with you...its a shame. And it's an urgent need for a place trance artists can get information about organizers they dont know yet imho. maybe more importantly: dont play without getting your fee and make no exceptions, 100% upfront is the way to go. I think if an organizer has got the money for your fee he can send it right away. if he cant send it he doesnt have it meaning he is not necessarily planning to pay you anyway...


 
Posted by Psylife Music on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:09 PM
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Cosmosis

 
Yes, agreed, but like I said,

"Having an effective policy in place to make sure I get paid is my responsibity. I have a policy of money up front with people that I have never worked with before.  Unfortunately, in this case I made a (very) rare exception and it was completely taken advantage of.   Cheers, Bill



 
Posted by Cosmosis on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:12 PM
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Cosmic Plasma

 
I empathise with you also...Unfortunately, this kind of liars, cheeters and lowlevel "humanbeens" exist everywhere...they do also exist in our little psy-world-community. I've been in this situation before and had to deal with this 2face people...It's in our power to show these liars to everybody, so hopefully they'll have no more people to lie to.

"...you can fool some people some time, but you can't fool all the people all the time..."
"...stand up for your rights..."  BOB MARLEY

LOVE & LIGHT

 
Posted by Cosmic Plasma on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:09 PM
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Zen Mechanics

 
Sad to hear this mate. It is astonishing indeed to know that some people in this precious scene are deliberately trying to fuck over artists. But yeah they won't get far. I think it's good that u bring this out in the open....karma will take care of the rest 8) Hope you'll sort it out though!

 
Posted by Zen Mechanics on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:09 PM
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Cosmosis

 
Hello Wouter,
nice to hear from ya  :)
Bill

 
Posted by Cosmosis on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 4:07 AM
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Akahum

 
Good move Billy, most performers have been deceived or 'robbed' by a promoter at some point in their career. Sorry you got ripped off even though your payment policy is sound. Thanks for sharing.


 
Posted by Akahum on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:09 PM
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Cosmosis

 
Thanks Akahum,

"Sorry you got ripped off even though your payment policy is sound."

Lol!  Clearly not sound enough  :)

Cheers,
Bill

 
Posted by Cosmosis on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 9:19 AM
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DJ Anders

 
It makes me sad to see that stuff like this is going on in our scene over here..

 
Posted by DJ Anders on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:13 PM
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Dj Juggler (Utopia Rec. / Crystal Matrix Rec.)

 
Same with me and with my friends that played on house stage too...
 
Posted by Dj Juggler (Utopia Rec. / Crystal Matrix Rec.) on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:14 PM
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Cosmosis

 


Hello DJ Juggler,
what, did you guys get ripped off also?

Bill
 
Posted by Cosmosis on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:23 PM
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Freaky Fiction

 
Yeps, to me was 150€ and my friends of the house stage almost 500€, hope not to see philip again.
Was really nice to listen your live act, cya :)

 
Posted by Freaky Fiction on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 6:36 AM
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Seb Taylor

 
Hey Billy
Wanted to ask you some advice
I've just been contaced by this guy in Guatamala
he says he can't pay in advance but promises it'll all be on on the night.
What do you think?
He seems totally fine to me
Hope all is good bro:)
smootchies from tash & myself
Seb

x
x
x



 
Posted by Seb Taylor on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:14 PM
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Cosmosis

 
Seb,
LOL !!

I don't know Seb.  I can't quite put my finger on it,  but there's just something about the way this Guatamalan promoter looks that makes me a little bit suspicious....

Bill
x

 
Posted by Cosmosis on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:22 PM
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Imajica

 
Sorry to hear this! We did a gig for this guy a cupple of years ago and he did the same thing to us, tough it wasn..t that much money, but anyway... he doesn..t spread good vibes in this scene and I will for sure spread the word about this to artists in Sweden and other organizers to.  
 
Posted by Imajica on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 3:08 AM
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Cosmosis

 

 
Hello Imajica,

thanks for your reply.  Sorry to hear that he ripped you guys off also.  

So clearly we are dealing with a serial offender.

The problem is, if we let someone get away with this kind of behaviour one time, then they'll be far more inclined to do it again, as your case proves.

Which is exactly why we need to expose this guy for what he is and stop him working.

Cheers, Bill

 
Posted by Cosmosis on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 9:49 AM
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Perfect Stranger

 
Hey Billy,

Sorry to read your story, it's so sad there are ppl like this around, but they are, and it was very good thing what you did and publicly talk about it. Thanks for that. I would just mention that there are services for ppl like that, that deal with foreign debts, they take certain percentage of your debt ofcourse, but they just go to the dude and make him pay. I know few ppl that used that method in the past, and it works, although many folks prefer just to move on.

In any case be well and see you with your never ending positive energy soon somewhere! ;)

Yuli

 
Posted by Perfect Stranger on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 2:23 PM
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Perfect Stranger

 
Hey Billy,

Sorry to read this story, and wish it was definitely the last time it happened to you. Also it's great that you put your energy to write about it, so we all can know about it. This is by far the only way I can think of, that we can fight this phenomena, and maybe not encounter it ever again. If I can suggest something tho - there are companies all over the world that do a service of collecting a debt from those that don't want to pay. All they need is the name and address, and of course they take 30 to 50 percent of what you need to be paid, but they do the job. I know it was effectively done in the past with similar villains, and more over they deserve it and the way it done, and had it comin'.

Keep your great tunes and energies on stage @ the peak level always! Be well!!!

 
Posted by Perfect Stranger on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 2:24 PM
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Bionic

 
Hey Bill, sorry to hear this but thank you very much for sharing this information with us!
It's the only way this guy will be unable to scam any more artists and you did the right
thing! Thanks again!

Flip

 
Posted by Bionic on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:45 AM
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M-THEORY (new tracks up!!!)

 
Hi Billy..

best regards from london...looking forward to see you in UP for New Year.


You have all our support on this kind of issues, we just come back from brazil (Porto Alegre) and we had a nightmare experience as well...more details will come soon on our blog, when we'll find the right and polite words to express our disgust...

Take care 

Marcello&Rob
 
Posted by M-THEORY (new tracks up!!!) on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:46 AM
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N.A.S.A.

 
Hey, Bill.

I was the progressive act on main floor before you, and I just wanted to say how sorry I am to hear things got so crazy. Did not know what had happened until now, when someone told me about it.

I did get paid that night, but I haunted Phillip into his car to get the money, so I guess I was the lucky one. Its retarded that it has to be this way, but I totally support you in this if Phillip failed to pay you and all the others and even told you that he wouldnt pay.

Bad move!

 
Posted by N.A.S.A. on Tuesday, December 15, 2009 - 11:37 AM
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