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Sean Petersen


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Gender: Male
Status: Married
Age: 32
Sign: Virgo

City: SUN VALLEY
State: California
Country: US
Signup Date: 2/23/2005

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Thursday, May 15, 2008 

Current mood:  annoyed
Category: Friends
It's been an interesting year on the "friends" front. Joe & I have recently had 3 friends completely fall off the map. Friends that we've considered "family" & vice versa.

I don't know whether it is due to the way I grew up, giving people the benefit of the doubt, second chances, & simply believing that anything can be worked out, especially with "family". Not to boast, but Joe & I consider ourselves very giving people, and when a friendship goes up in flames, like paper, with just one spark, it leaves you feeling duped. Furthermore, most people around us realize that it has been a rough year for us with Joe's fighting for custody of his son, financial strains, Joe's Father's passing & simply trying to lift our career off the ground after Joe being blacklisted from the Christian Music world after "coming out". And when friends leave you high & dry during these hard times makes the blow even harder to handle. I've been angry thinking that friendships that have lasted 10 years could dissolve so easily without any attempt to salvage. I feel stupid for believing the best in these people, but people are just people. I try chalking it up to emotional insecurity or immaturity but it gets harder to do with each passing year that we are all supposedly growing up! Is it LA? No, because these friends weren't origianally from LA, but LA, being so big, does leave you feeling that it IS possible to kick a friend to the curb & KNOW that you won't have to see them again.

I guess the bottom line for this bitch session is that it's important for us to build more stable friendships. We've lost friends before due to our sexuality, which was not hard for us to get over, since that reasoning is so foolish, but I don't like having to answer to Joe's son's questions "Why doesn't so & so come over anymore?" It's life I guess & there's never anyway of controlling what people do, but I'm fighting getting bitter. Thankfully our relationships with our families have only grown through the years which makes me even more anxious to have kids.

Now, I WON'T deny that we have made several great friends recently which we are very appreciative for.

My advice to everyone is to not throw out your friends, like recycling a paper bag. Most everything can be worked out, but sometimes people are unable to try and it's okay to let them go.

Life IS fragile, but real LOVE is neverending. People aren't perfect, and friendships shouldn't be. 
Rob
Robert Velasco

 
It would only work if you have true friends which are rare to find. If you find some, send them my way, I can use some friends.
 
Posted by Rob on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 5:27 AM
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►SeanyP
Sean Petersen

 
Thanks Pastor Josh! I think. I've never doubted your friendship so there is certainly no hard feelings. My point really had nothing to do with sexuality nor our work situation, but it's my "choice" to believe that it's foolish that one wouldn't want to be friends with an Iowa State fan... etc. And someone can "dislike the things they do" and still be their friends. Isn't that "real" love?

Ha, sorry about the wedding gift. We're due to give several people wedding/graduation gifts. :) How about this, when Joe & I get married (thank you California) you don't need to get us a gift.
 
Posted by ►SeanyP on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 12:32 AM
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Sean Petersen

 
ANYWAY... I don't really know how my blog about being sad & upset about some failing relationships turned into a debate. I know that intentions can get lost with black & white words on a page. From my perspective you sound a bit defensive by offering up a bunch of analogies that I'm having a hard time relating to the topic. I guess I am implying that you are pastorizing. I don't remember blaming the church, implying that christian music is evil, or opening a debate about my love for Joe. Maybe it's especially confusing because the point of this blog really had nothing to do with any of these things. I merely mentioned, in a nutshell, some of the hard times we have been through. I guess you might say that I feel like you are majoring on the minors when it comes to the point of my situation, which just leaves me feeling a bit confused about where you are coming from. I think that is the way many people feel when "christians" offer up SO much information, people feel that they are being preached at.

Anyway, I love you Josh and I really don't mean any disrespect. I DO try to avoid anything heated over emails, texts, & blogs. 90% of communication is nonverbal which obviously doesn't exist in this format.

ps-I should retract saying Christian music, because we have actually worked with several Christian artists who don't fall under the umbrella of Christian Record Labels. I should have simply said, Christian Record Labels, but like I said, it really wasn't meant to be the focus of the blog. And you're right, music doesn't gets saved, just as (Christian) bookstores don't either. Just another way for our society to put subcultures in a box and for these subcultures to make money.
 
Posted by ►SeanyP on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 7:16 PM
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Sean Petersen

 
I was talking about losing friends in the midst of having gone through these things, not because of these things. And I said "We've lost friends before due to our sexuality, which was not hard for us to get over" inferring that this current scenario is much different.

No i wasn't putting Christians down when I said, "I think that is the way many people feel when "christians" offer up SO much information, people feel that they are being preached at." How could anyone ever argue with how people FEEL? One's intension's may not be to offend, but it doesn't mean that they don't offend. I haven't been offended by what you've said because I know where you are coming from, but I have been confused.

Anyway, I really can't blog all day, but I feel a little more stirred up about other issues than resolved about reaching out in a blog.

Like I said, words on a page always leave MUCH room for interpretations, so I know you mean well, as do I.

So are you saying you won't Marry Joe & I? lol
 
Posted by ►SeanyP on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 8:34 PM
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Edwin

 
On a general note: Dumping friends because of their sexual orientation is as much nonsense as dumping friends because of their shoe size. Somebody who does that makes a choice, and that's all it is: a choice, a bad one, I might add. It doesn't mean that they are right, or that their choice should be treated with respect. Acceptance, yes, of course. But some choices make sense while others make no rational sense whatsoever.
 
Posted by Edwin on Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 8:51 PM
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Edwin Wendler

 
Why would anybody equate liking/disliking TV shows with cheating on your wife or dumping your friend because he's gay? Now THAT's what I would call irrational.
 
Posted by Edwin Wendler on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 8:33 AM
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Edwin

 
I think that there are differences between rational thinking, personal choices, and morality. You seem to have them all mixed up.

My comparison between dumping your friends because their sexual orientation, and dumping your friends because of their shoe size (my point being that they are equally ridiculous) was based on rational thinking.

Rational thinking (looking at evidence and fact, drawing logical conclusions) is accessible to all. The process of arriving at a personal choice is different from that. I never equated the two, but you seem to. There is no evidence that friends all of a sudden become worse at friendship, for the sole reason of revealing their sexual orientation. So the decision of dumping them solely because of sexual orientation is a decision which is not based on rational thinking but something else.

There is a difference between what "seems rational" (as you put it), and what actually IS rational. The former use of the word "rational" refers to somebody's beliefs (drawn from legend, rumor, illogical assumptions, word-of-mouth, etc.) which sometimes have very little to do with reality, while the latter use of the word refers to logical thinking based on evidence.

We are simply using the term "rational" in different ways. That's all.
 
Posted by Edwin on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 5:08 PM
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Sean Petersen

 
Exactly!
 
Posted by ►SeanyP on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 12:33 AM
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Sean Petersen

 
Exactly what I was thinking Tomas! See you guys tonight!
 
Posted by ►SeanyP on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 7:58 PM
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Sean Petersen

 
Ah, thanks so much Tomas for your kind words. You both are truly wonderful people and we've loved seeing more of you both in the recent past. Thank you for always being so kind and thoughtful to us both. Writing is therapeutic for me so I thought doing a blog would be a good way to get my frustrations off my chest. Now I just need to start writing more songs. lol

See you guys soon!
 
Posted by ►SeanyP on Friday, May 16, 2008 - 8:35 AM
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Tony
Tony Lobb

 
Wow, I really enjoyed your blog posting, it relates to me so much right now, in that I have lost a relationship because of changes for the better in my life, but so many friends from that former world I used to inhibit, have dropped me like a hot potato these days. I'm still the same person I just weigh 200 lbs less, but many people no longer speak to me. So I can totally relate to how you are feeling. I sure didn't catch an anti-Christian drift from your posting so I'm not sure why it caused such a ruckus there, also I noticed your pastor friend didn't bother to reply to the question of whether or not he would "do" your wedding..........
 
Posted by Tony on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 4:28 AM
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Tony
Tony Lobb

 
Interesting, so you are a Pauline Pastor and not a "pure" Christian Pastor then? Love was the message of Christ, not exclusion, Paul was the one who came along later, who never even knew Christ in person, who decided who was "in" or "out" in the new religion and who laid down the laws that weren't mentioned in the gospels. Maybe you were absent that day........I'd recommend a movie for you but you probably wouldn't watch it since the subject makes you uncomfortable, it's called "For the Bible Tells Me So" you should watch it with an open mind and an open heart, it might help you.

Also marriage is and always has been about law, not about religion, that's a curiously american phenomen. In almost all other countries, marriage is a two part relationship, where only the legal part is required, the religious part is secondary and doesn't carry legal weight.

Just a couple of things for you to think about, and before you try to place me in a niche that you can label, I am not particually interested in all the supposed rights that the gay community has been out advocating for, I don't want to be in the military, I don't particularly care about getting married as I have no children and no plans for them, while others might want these things I think that they should be able to have them, but it doesn't move me as it does some others. All I care about is being accepted as a person, all the same reasons that are used to argue against gays being people were used at various times about other groups, including the Irish, the Jews, Blacks, and now Arabs........we so love to scapegoat groups of people who are different from ourselves.
 
Posted by Tony on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 4:38 PM
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