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October 30, 2009 - Friday 

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Category: Religion and Philosophy
I was taking a break from cutting my purdy pumpkin today, to read this from a  conservative friends blogger I read:

"Not only is it a Pagan holiday but it has roots in socialism as well lol we're telling our kids to go knock on someone else's door and ask them for something they didn't work for. :/ Just a thought. " (don't like linking names unless they want that available. I'll link if they approve)

I agree with the first part. It's rooted in Paganism.

The second "Socialism" part I had to wonder about.

Those who are self confirmed Christian who cry "SOCIALISM" on Halloween? Yea. I don't buy it.

For a touch of their own biblical history:

(..pretty much a description of how the apostles lived.)

Conditions Among the Early Believers:

4:32 The group of those who believed were of one heart and mind,82 and no one said that any of his possessions was his own, but everything was held in common.83 4:3384 great power the apostles were giving testimony85 to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was on them all. 4:34 For there was no one needy86 among them, because those who were owners of land or houses were selling87 them88 and bringing the proceeds from the sales 4:35 and placing them at the apostles’ feet. The proceeds89 were distributed to each, as anyone had need. 4:36 So Joseph, a Levite who was a native of Cyprus, called by the apostles Barnabas (which is translated “son of encouragement”),90 4:37 sold91 a field92 that belonged to him and brought the money93 and placed it at the apostles’ feet. 


5:1 Now a man named Ananias, together with Sapphira his wife, sold a piece of property. 5:2 He1 kept back for himself part of the proceeds with his wife’s knowledge; he brought2 only part of it and placed it at the apostles’ feet. 5:3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled3 your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back for yourself part of the proceeds from the sale of4 the land? 5:4 Before it was sold,5 did it not6 belong to you? And when it was sold, was the money7 not at your disposal? How have you thought up this deed in your heart?8 You have not lied to people9 but to God!” 5:5 When Ananias heard these words he collapsed and died, and great fear gripped10 all who heard about it.


In essence... collective concern wasn't discouraged --- to say the least.


I've read the bible inside and out.

I don't think it a book of 'evil', even though I disagree with a mass majority of it's premises'.


I do, however, find it disingenuous for people to criticize me for giving candy to children and parading it as "socialism" when even that act isn't discouraged in their own holy book.


It's one thing to give to kids on a single night a year in order to give them a small pleasure... it's quite another to claim socialism because I want to willingly do a kind deed for our innocent children.

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Sabrina Phillips

 
I don't think that parts of the bible should just be chosen to prove a point that isn't biblical. Those people did that for the glory of God. There is nothing Godly about Halloween.

The analogy that was given is just a simple one that explains the basics of socialism. Anytime you ask someone for something that you didn't work for then you're looking for a hand out. I just don't agree with it. It's not like these kids need candy anyway.

 
Posted by Sabrina Phillips on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 12:24 AM
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BADALEX

 
Yes. Imagine that. People giving freely to other people. Gosh. How fucked.

 
Posted by BADALEX on November 1, 2009 - Sunday - 5:49 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
The Buybull is the Framework for Marx's Communist Manifesto. The Book of ACTs alone builds the setting for Ideal Communism. Yes, Christianity is Communist. IN CONTEXT!

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:40 AM
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Sabrina Phillips

 
LMAO now THAT is the most outrageous comment i've ever seen

 
Posted by Sabrina Phillips on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 3:53 AM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
Freely giving is not Communism...enforced giving is communism.
 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 3:25 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
Well if you don't freely give you're condemned. Maybe you could try something new; Read the Bible, ALL Of It. It even instructs you to Pay Taxes which isn't freely Giving. This isn't Philanthropy:
All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:44-45) There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
(Acts 4:34-37)

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 6:12 AM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
No, remember the text about teaching someone to fish...

But atheists tend to know the Bible better than Christians, but for the wrong reasons...they want to use it to attack and demoralize people, whether believers use it to find truth.

Link

For the purpose of this article, I am defining economics as “a study of the choices human beings make with regard to scarce resources.” By “capital,” I mean: “Any asset—material or non-material—that produces continuing benefits of any kind.” In view of these definitions, the Lord makes a very important statement concerning economics during His earthly ministry. After His miraculous feeding of the five thousand, Jesus said, “Gather up the fragments that remain, so that nothing is lost” (John 6:12). Quite clearly, the Lord, in this passage, was speaking of the conservation of capital. Then, in Luke 16:10-11, He said: “He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon [i.e. “riches" (money and possessions)], who will commit to your trust the true riches?” This does not teach greed and avarice, nor does it teach one to be consumed by the pursuit of money and possessions. In fact, earlier, the Lord had said that “one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses” (Luke 12:15). What it teaches is that the test of spiritual stewardship lies in the use of money and possessions. In other words, a fool is a fool, whether it has to do with material or spiritual things. “There is desirable treasure, and oil in the dwelling of the wise, but a foolish man squanders it” (Proverbs 21:20).
Consequently, in John 6:12, the fragments that remained were capital, as I have defined the term, and, as such, they needed to be conserved. Likewise, in the parable of the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-14), the Lord taught a lesson on spiritual neglect by picturing a young man squandering his material possessions. Simply put, the Bible teaches a very important principle of economics: wastefulness (i.e., the failure to conserve capital) produces want (cf. Proverbs 21:20; 18:9; 29:3). Now, if this lesson alone was understood and applied by Congress, just think how better off we’d all be. As I’ve pointed out already, the economic base in this country is being eroded by an economic philosophy that says: “Let us all be happy and live within our means, even if we have to borrow the money to do it with.” If we started a repayment plan for the current national debt of one million dollars per day, it would take us well over three thousand years to pay back this debt. Furthermore, we must not be naive. This debt will have to be paid back through literal repayment (viz., future taxes), deceitful repayment (viz., future inflation), or cancellation (viz., political upheaval). Barring the Lord's return, there are no other alternatives.
In connection with all this, it is interesting to note that according to the Social Security Administration, only two percent of the American people reach age sixty-five financially independent: thirty percent are dependent upon some type of public or private subsistence; twenty-three percent must continue to work; and forty-five percent are dependent on relatives. As hard as it may be to believe, according to Social Security records, eighty-five out of one hundred Americans have less than two hundred and fifty dollars in savings when they reach age sixty-five. Why? Because, as Americans, we have not learned how to conserve capital. Instead, we spend, spend, spend. It is ironic that in the midst of seemingly unprecedented “prosperity,” we are, as a nation, decaying economically. But, as I said above, barring the Lord’s return, our economic chickens will eventually come home to roost, as we say down here in the South.
In addition, there are other areas in which we have failed to conserve capital. The family structure, as it was ordained by God, which is the very backbone of our nation, is currently being destroyed. Furthermore, the intellectual competence of our nation is being eroded. And in addition, our legal foundations, which reflect Biblical principles, are disintegrating. Why? Because we have forgotten how important it is to conserve these assets. If we do not quickly get back to a clear understanding of Biblical economics, then all these things we have enjoyed will be gone.
Returning now to money matters, there are only five short-term uses for our income. It may be...
given away,
spent to support a lifestyle,
used for repayment of debt,
used to meet tax obligations,
accumulated or saved.
It is significant to note that the Bible addresses all five of these areas. How much do you know about what the Bible has to say about these areas? I think it is very interesting that the Bible says very little about these areas by direct commands. This is probably why most people fail to notice them. Mostly, the Bible teaches on these subject areas by principles and guidelines; therefore, in order to conduct oneself properly in regard to these areas, one will need to be intimately familiar with God's Word. Remember, it is God's Word that separates the sheep from the goats. Consequently, we should be diligent to present ourselves approved to God, workmen who do not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (cf. II Timothy 2:15).

 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 11:36 PM
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bob

 
You make an excellent point, Khaos.

Here is further support for your position.

One of Jesus' most famous remarks regarding the wealthy can be found in Matthew 19:16-24 (the same event is also described in Mark 10:17-25 and Luke 18:18-25, and the metaphor of a camel going through the eye of a needle is common to both Matthew and Luke).
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why do you ask me about what is good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


It always makes me sad when I have to explain Christianity to Christians.



 
Posted by bob on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 5:56 AM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
Pwned
 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 11:42 PM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
I could care less what atheists think about in Christianity. They are worst hypocrites than some Christians. Here, let me school you, atheist "Bible" scholar.

Don't ever get cocky with me; it only makes me want to pwn you more....here is the link.

Galatians 6:7-8 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
 
...the Bible does not specifically speak to the proper degree of government intervention in the economy. There is no explicit endorsement of any type of economic system, no equation of capitalism or socialism with the Kingdom of God. Old Testament Israel placed some restrictions on debts, interest, and property transfers but allowed relatively free economic exchange. The so-called Jubilee laws were tied to the Israelites' special status as God's people -- secular America is therefore not a good analogue to religious Israel -- and did not transfer property ownership from people to the state.
The Gospels and Epistles of the New Testament are remarkably free of any economic policy recommendations. Indeed, wrote the late Paul Heyne of the University of Washington, "What we do find in the New Testament is an extraordinary disregard for almost everything in which economists are interested." In the absence of a holy ideology, one must answer a more subtle question: Which system is more consistent with Biblical principles?

Economic systems and Christianity
In discussing capitalism it is important to distinguish a competitive market economy from systems that merely involve some private property ownership. Kleptocracies and crony capitalist regimes exist around the globe; particularly obscene are many Latin American governments, where an elite has long used political power to exploit the rest of the population. Such systems are far closer to socialism than capitalism, however, since they involve pervasive government economic control.
Christ's message is clear: believers are not to place their faith in Mammon or any of the other idols of this world. But while the Bible is long on injunctions involving man's relationship to God and his neighbors, it says far less about the role of the state. The fact that people are not to trust in material goods does not mean that economic decision-making should be placed in the hands of a coercive institution such as government.
The early Christians, at least in Jerusalem, freely shared their material goods with the needy in the community of faith. However, these voluntary followers of Christ never attempted to forcibly redistribute the assets of non-Christians or even fellow believers. Indeed, the Apostles consistently taught that giving was not mandatory as it was under the law of the old covenant. Peter stated that members of the Jerusalem church had no obligation to sell their property and turn over their proceeds to the body; Paul refused to order the members of the Corinthian church to provide assistance for the believers in Jerusalem. Of course, both men expressed the hope that Christians would behave generously. Said Paul: "Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." (II Corinthians 9: 7)
A faith that refuses to order its adherents to give not surprisingly provides little support for using the state to make others give. And the commandment against theft should raise at least some questions as to when collective action exceeds Biblical authority. Moreover, there are other scriptural reasons to be more skeptical than supportive of proposals to concentrate economic power in the government's hands.
Most important, the Christian faith recognizes that all human institutions are flawed, and that sinful men are likely to misuse their power. Consider the Apostle John's vision in Revelation of a hideous "Beast" state with expansive power, including power over people's economic affairs. (No one could buy or sell anything without the Beast's mark.)
Less apocalyptic but nevertheless equally striking is the prophet Samuel's warning when the Israelites ask God for a king:
"He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use. He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the Lord will not answer you in that day." (I Samuel 8: 11-18)
Most religious critics of capitalism respond that they opposed Stalinist communism and instead advocated some variant of democratic collectivism. But economic liberty is a prerequisite for other freedoms. Countries such as South Korea and Taiwan used market reforms to prosper, and demands for political reform then naturally grew. Economic reforms in China have helped to create a more prosperous population, which has grown increasingly restive under traditional communist political controls.

 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 11:41 PM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
Read the the verses before and after that which I quoted. THey don't change the context of what is being said. That is how the apostles lived. Cooperation within the community was valued.

This doesn't go to show Halloween was "godly", I agree. That's not what I was driving at.
"Socialism" was brought up, and that was what I was addressing... the political twist.

I don't understand how someone could see me giving out a Reeses' piece to a 2 yr. old as promoting socialism. No more than you giving a cousin birthday gift, a nice a Christmas gift, giving a kid Easter candy, etc.; all all altruistic, and none would lead to Socialism more or less than Halloween.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 12:57 AM
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Jenni

 
I'm not into trick or treating....but not for that reason.  A bit of a stretch, me thinks.

 
Posted by Jenni on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 12:25 AM
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Jenni

 
I am SO first!  That's never happened before!  {jumps up and down and does a little happy dance}

 
Posted by Jenni on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 12:26 AM
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Jenni

 
Oh that is SO WEIRD because when I posted it and looked at it, I was the only one who'd commented.  {sigh}....the cookie was nom nom nom....thanks :D

 
Posted by Jenni on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 5:47 PM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
LOL!

Almost, dahling :)

You still get a cookie, because I ♥ you :)



 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 1:00 AM
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Wesman Todd Shaw
Wesman Shaw

 
I've never found an economic theory in Christianity.  Looking at your friend's comment though-I don't really think that he/she was implying that Christianity had an economic theory.

Also, as you well know, the point of the Apostles living off of charity was not something that Jesus was asking them to do in order to lay out an economic theory, rather, he was teaching them to have faith that their needs would be provided for them.

 
Posted by Wesman Todd Shaw on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 12:29 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
Indeed.

But concern for others was valued even by the apostles... even to the point that those who denied to do it died (Acts 5:1).

Giving to those who are less fortunate isn't a bad thing, and shouldnt' be aligned with some socialist agenda.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 1:06 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
SSH! Michael believes the Buybull isn't Communist. He believes Generosity and redistribution of wealth is completely voluntary. Some how being put to death for not sharing just doesn't grab me as being a Free Choice issue...

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 6:33 AM
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Wesman Todd Shaw
Wesman Shaw

 
Give a man a fish and. . . . . . .

But TEACH a man to fish and. . . . . ..

 
Posted by Wesman Todd Shaw on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:58 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
Teach a Man to Fish so you can exploit him... It's just good business?

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 8:26 PM
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Nurse Fiona
All things Nursey

 
LULZ!!
 
Posted by Nurse Fiona on November 2, 2009 - Monday - 2:34 AM
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Wesman Todd Shaw
Wesman Shaw

 
Yeah, teach a man to fish then you can charge him for a license to fish, and all manner of other taxes in the name of false, cooked up scams by globalist bankers in the name of environmentalism for the express and intent purpose of enslaving the world.

Good morning, Khaos Pants!

Oh wait, it's not morning-it's just that I just got up.

 
Posted by Wesman Todd Shaw on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 8:32 PM
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Khaos Pants™

 
The Buybull takes it to the point that none shall own property, no one has Liberty except for the Central Governing Body and Bank. This is what the modern Communist Ideal of Unified Capitalism is modeled on. That Cult isn't Socialist is Raw Fascist Communism. It's so far right it's left. Hitler and Stalin would be Proud of these people.

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:43 AM
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B

 
Wow, do people really put that much thought into Halloween?  LOL...with it's roots in paganism, along came the Catholic church to hijack it into All Saint's Eve and even changed the date of the event, therefor making it a Christian celebration.  Does this story sound familiar?  Hmmm....Winter Solstice=non Pagan Christmas.  All of these celebrations have more to do with Paganism than any Christian is comfortable exploring.

As far as socialism, please people don't ever take anything from anyone.  Under that analogy you could say your parents are socialists for handing you anything other than the basic necessities of life.


 
Posted by B on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 1:38 AM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
Socialism is an enforced giving, Einstein. Marx and Engel said nothing about charities and foundations. Oy vey, make another blog about Rush Limbaugh because no liberal has ever bashed him before. LOL
 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:30 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
Socialism isn't about Giving or Taking, boy you've really been brainwashed. Socialism is an Economic System where the mode of Trade is determined by a regulated medium. The US Dollar was once Socialism; now it's Communism as it falls under a Fiat based Medium regulated and distributed by a Central Unified Bank. Capitalism is the precursor to Socialism, Unified Capitalism is Communist. Jesus (Iesus) Taught and Practiced Unified Capitalism; Coin that was stamped, regulated and distributed by a central Money Changer under a Central Stateless Governing Hierarchy. Do people READ anymore? Or do they just do what they are told and accept it?

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 6:18 AM
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B

 
Michael,

I was referring to the point of the blog.  Someone apparently suggested that giving candy to a child for Halloween was "socialism".  Seriously, do you even read the blogs that you attack people on or do you just skim to their comments and make up your own story line to attach your comment to?

I don't get you.  Do you think your funny too aimlessly attack people for sharing a thought or opinion? I would occasionally find your comments funny or sarcastic, but lately they've just been like angry tantrums.  Grow up and go find someone else to elicit blog wars with.  Not interested.

 
Posted by B on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 3:02 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
B, what is implied is that Philanthropy, Laissez-Faire, Fair Trade, Barter, Free Enterprise, Liberty, Personal Accountability and general Generosity are all Socialism. But being greedy, condescending, blatantly ignorant, warmongering, cruel and irresponsible with no personal accountability is somehow Good. I guess if you're completely self serving it might be.                                      

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 6:29 AM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
B, just ask me out and tell me I am sexy I am will leave you be, okay?

I like hot liberals; they are hard to find.
 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 3:23 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
That's because you're closet liberal wanting an intelligent like minded woman!

We all know it's true, Micheal. No need hiding behind that conservative chauvinistic facade.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:51 PM
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Dan

 
You need to swing by SoCal during beach season if you want hot libs Michael.  That or Orlando lol... But they do exist!
 
Posted by Dan on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 7:38 AM
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Angel

 
I think my biggest problem with the whole situation is the lack of accuracy in defining socialism.  In it's simplest form, allowing for derogatory interpretation, everyone gives everything to the government.  The government gives everyone equal shares.

The getting something for nothing happens all the time within our lovely capitalist society....and dictatorships.....and monarchies.

It's candy for frack's sake.  To assign economic or political affiliation or demeanor to a night of free candy is petty and childish.

I've read the bible inside and out.  And I agree.  The lived in a sort of hippie commune.  It wasn't just for the "Grace of God."  It was to teach and practice unity and tolerance.  Fine concepts to teach, no matter what personal beliefs one holds.

The worst that someone might call the giving of candy is charity.  Another precept embraced by many religions, including Christianity.

Have a blessed Samhain

 
Posted by Angel on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:04 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
Socialism has been redefined to include ANYthing that Obam does or doesn't do.
Every thing he does is fuel for the common day red scare -- he drinks a beer? He is a socialist because he didn't drink a domestic one. He doesn't make a serious decision quickly enough? It's because he is socialist stalemate.

It's gotten ridiculous. Socialism encompasses SO much random nonsense now, that it's rendered meaningless.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:39 PM
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Amused

 
I can just imagine whose blog that was from *GIANT eye roll*

Then they had better give up a few other holidays. I hope this person doesn't offer treats to children that have come over to play with their kids. I hope they don't give birthday presents or Christmas presents.....those people/kids receiving did not work for those gifts! I hope that person doesn't give to charity! OR the collection plate at church.

Good grief...people are getting down right ridiculous.

 
Posted by Amused on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:12 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
You give because you're a socialist! Admit it.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:42 PM
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Lady_Hart

 

Personally , it makes me think somebody has to much time on their hands to think up stupid shit like that. But leave it to a holier than thou to have those idle hands.


 
Posted by Lady_Hart on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:17 AM
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Michael, the Rochester Rogue!
Michael Rochester

 
These are children getting cheap knockoffs of chocolate, Michelle. Let's put this into perspective. Giving is not socialism or the Salvation Army and March of Dimes is socialism. It is enforced sharing which is socialism, when there is no free will to chose how to give away what you earned, Karlene Marx.
What are you dressing for Halloween, hubba hubba? Sexy nurse I hope and not that GWAR shit. LOL


 
Posted by Michael, the Rochester Rogue! on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:29 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
"Gwar shit"?!?!?!

I would kill to get a GWAR costume! My metal-loving heart is all attwitter at the thought...

So you'd conclude that Halloween candy giving isn't socialism? I think this is the first time I've seen you disagree with Sabrina! haha

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:44 PM
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Sabrina Phillips

 
I've met GWAR. I have bloody towels and shirts signed by them. They are a nutty bunch lol just thought I'd throw that in.Met them 4 years ago at The Sounds of the Underground tour.

 
Posted by Sabrina Phillips on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 12:06 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
GWAR is pretty cool. I don't typically listen to their CD's... .but the show is very exciting and action packed. I loved it!

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 12:32 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
That person was no Conservative. I'm Conservative (Politically and Fiscally). That person was a member of the Extreme Right. Did you know the Extreme Right of the Political Scale is Communism??? Yep, mot who claim to be conservatives, especially christian conservatives practice and worship based on communist ideals. Fuck; Marx framed most of his Manifesto after the Ideals taught in the Bible. The Book of Acts is the framework for the Ten Planks. Is Halloween Socialist? Hardly, it comes from a Culture that believed in little or no governing body what so ever, it is as close to the Ideals this country was founded on as one can get in a Special Day. Too bad these NEO-Cons are too brainwashed to see the very ideals they fight are the EXACT Same Ideals they Worship. On the other side, the extreme left is Fascism Socialism (It requires great speakers with strong charisma, not braindead college fratboy morons like GW Bush). I say Birthdays, Constitution Day and Darwin Day are the 3 most sacred of all Holidays! My-Shellie, you need to go out some Sabbath (Saturday) or Sunday knocking door to door on known Christian doors handing out copies of  "The Origin of the Species" it's fun, entertaining and they do it to us with their Handbook of Flat Planets and Communism!

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 2:39 AM
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Sabrina Phillips

 
That's pretty pathetic. Halloween is a useless holiday all around. All of the obese kids in America don't need candy anyway.

 
Posted by Sabrina Phillips on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:05 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
It's not all about candy. It's about fun, costumes, face painting, decorating pumpkins, crafts, etc. Heck, my son gets maybe a small hand full of his candy on the night of Halloween, and the rest is put up and use sparingly as rewards through the year. It's the fun he has in getting it and meeting our neighbors that makes the whole thing so exciting.
You don't have to participate, but it's pretty pathetic that you'd demonize it because of your own personal idealism. I'm beginning to think you don't even know what Socialism is. By your use of the word, it's everything you don't happen to like or agree with.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:48 PM
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Sabrina Phillips

 
Oh my gosh. I don't care what the hell you choose to do. I think it's a stupid holiday and the whole premise of it is just kind of creepy. I'm not going to try to tell you how to raise your child. You act like that's what I'm trying to do. I made a remark you didn't agree with. Get over it.

 
Posted by Sabrina Phillips on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 12:07 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
You said it was Socialism, that's the issue I had. I don't mind people not participating.... I just think it disingenuous that other try to demonize my choice to participate and to try and make it out as some political agenda. My son getting candy is not making him a socialist, to infer it does is completely ridiculous.

 
Posted by Moshellie on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 12:35 AM
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Dan

 
Using that logic we should discourage Easter and Thanksgiving.  Those fatties certainly don't need the food right?  Might as well throw in Christmas too, greedy little kids thinking they deserve a present that they haven't worked for.  Outrageous!

Sabrina, I usually read and enjoy your blogs, but we will have to agree to disagree here.
 
Posted by Dan on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 7:34 AM
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Khaos Pants™

 
Giftmas is a Useless Holiday, one that would benefit people the world over if it was done away with. In it's origins before the flat Earthers ruined it, celebrated renewal and the oncoming spring.

 
Posted by Khaos Pants™ on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 6:31 AM
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Moshellie
Michelle J.

 
Sorry Panties, I love my Giftmas. Like Thanksgiving, I use it as a chance to celebrate family, giving, and my jolly crafty self. ;)


 
Posted by Moshellie on October 31, 2009 - Saturday - 12:37 AM
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Savior Self

 
1st off, great title! LOL
Loved the blog, I couldn't agree more.

 
Posted by Savior Self on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:47 AM
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El Solo Lobo
Temy Beal

 
I love socialism. I say everyone ought to have all the candy they want from any distribution center. And yeah, the very rich ought to be made to pay for it. Why? Because they can and we can't. Simple. But my house is not a distribution point which is why I put up a sign saying, "Go get your OWN damn candy!"
 
Posted by El Solo Lobo on October 30, 2009 - Friday - 4:52 AM
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