Let me say something about the cover charge and since I am moderating this specific conversation I will TRY to keep this as polite as I can but trust me if you have ever talked to me personally you will know I am seriously pissy on this subject.
I know there are amazing people in our group, people who make an effort, who support with time and effort and even money our community and goth night BUT and this is not aimed at any one person but in general to everyone who pouts like a two year old at the idea of paying a few (A FEW not a lot) of dollars to enjoy what they keep telling us they want....
GROW UP!!!!!!!
I am POOR, I mean scary freaking poor, 2/3rds of the month I run my car under 1/4 of a tank and spend more time on E then you can imagine and yet I would NOT hesitate to spend 2 or 3 dollars to go to an event I said I supported and I DO support this event. though it may not always seem it I listen to pretty much everyone and everything and what I so often hear is:
We want a better night....
We want this place to not look like such a hippy place...
We want more and better bands...
We want better types of booze...
We want better Music...
We want it more like what you would find in a big city...
We want....
We want....
We want...
GIVE ME...
GIVE ME...
What I ALMOST never hear is "What can I do for this community to make it better, to help us get what we need."
I wonder how many of you have dug into your own pockets and dumped something into the community, how many of you have offered then brought Ginger even something to decorate with? how many of you have volenteered to help with an event ((YES I KNOW SOME of you do... but really aren't those pretty much ALWAYS the same dozen or so people?))
Well here are a few facts:
Better night? Well we are NOT getting saturday anywhere but Terrapin and we need to make it worth their while and SHOW up and support it regaurdless of the night. By the way the bar IS open everyday of the week and has great drinks and late night happy hour after midnight and if you really want to thank and support John and Phil and all you might think of checking them out on a different day once in a while.
Want the place to look more gothic? So it is halloween, how many of you have been shopping lately? How many of you have moaned and groaned at the cost of really cool stuff, how many of you have shopped for gothy material and found that it is PRICEY... now how many of you have found something really cool and bought it for ginger and Gave it to her for goth night or an event without asking for anything? How many of you have offered to show up at 8:30 and help decorate?
More and better bands??? How many of you did NOT show up when Bella Morte played here for only a few dollars? (answer MOST) How many of you have bitched and groaned at paying even $5 or $10 to see a band that would cost you twice as much if you were in a bigger city? (Answer: Some) How many of you vollenteered to host a band over night or even to bring in food for them? (Answer: a few)
Want better brands of Absinthe? More choices? Guess what... it cost money to invest in a bottle of that stuff.. and a gamble that people at the bar wont like the stuff you buy and you will be stuck with a worthless bottle. Feel free to ask nicely for a brand you like, feel free to bring in drink ideas you find and then feel free to be NICE about it, like many small businesses Terrapin runs on a small margin and we need to respect what they have done for us and how amazingly cool they have been.
Want better music?? Feel free to make POLITE requests, hell go so far as to write them down with details and then if it is not something he already has you can either wait a few weeks or find it yourself and come early or stay late and give it to Bones either on flash drive so he can load it when he has time or on disc then feel free to wait til he has a chance to listen to it and see what you have. Believe it or not the people who do this event, Bones and Ginger and Hatter have real lives that dont only involve the communtiy and goth night.
Want a place more like a big city would have? How many of you have actually BEEN to a goth bar in a city with over a million people in it? guess what? you probably paid at the door and NOT $2 or $3 AND chances are there was a dress code AND MUCH more expensive drinks not to mention if you went to a few i have you have found the place busy one year and dead the next.
I admit I am a bit sore on this subject... I See what Ginger and Hatter do every week and not just on Sundays but ALL week, I have helped them and found many people to be ungrateful whiney butts about things and found others to be understanding and grateful. This project I am doing for Zombie nation is costing me about $200 to $250 out of pocket and yet it is only PART of ONE event, like Ginger and Hatter I ENJOY doing it but I can't really afford to do it on a regular basis.
So wow you might have to pay a few dollars... WHAAAAAA there are worse things... like no night at all.
You want things to be better? More to your liking? Contact Ginger about what you can do to help... then be damn sure you THANK her cause guess what folks... she does NOT make enough out of this to make it really worth it just for that, she does it cause she CARES about our scene and wants it to grow and what she does is ALOT and she seems to get quite a bit of flack.
If I have offended anyone then might I suggest that before you yell at me you take a GOOD look at yourself and see what is it I wrote that upset you and if it applies to you.. and if it does then do one of two things, either change things by helping or shut the hell up I have a hang-over and dont want to hear the whining.